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Author Solivagant
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#46 | Posted: 11 Jul 2019 15:47 | Edited by: Solivagant 
elsslots:
I came to think of Fish farming:

Better to call it "Aquaculture??? (as used also in the Budj Bim documents)

Nan Madol AB Eval "Other islets were used for functional activities including ............., clam aquaculture, ........, moray eel raising, food storage and preparation, sacrificial turtle husbandry"

Have failed so far to find any mention in China where it was a significant means of food provision - but neither West Lake UNESCO info nor Liangzhou AB (we are missing its Nom file at the moment) mention it - although it is mentioned in other sources for them. It would seem that we should limit it to mention in either Nomination File or AB evaluation?.

Author elsslots
Admin
#47 | Posted: 11 Jul 2019 23:52 
Thanks! I have limited it to AB evaluation

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#48 | Posted: 12 Jul 2019 01:33 | Edited by: Solivagant 
elsslots:
Thanks! I have limited it to AB evaluation

Re Aquaculture.
A slight problem with the definition is that Aquaculture can be cited in the AB review (as well presumably as in the Nom File) as a PROBLEM rather than as an "attribute"!!
e.g Palau Rock Islands.
IUCN review "Expansion of aquaculture activities poses a potential threat to the property. A farm culturing milkfish for commercial purposes is located near the boundary within the nominated property It is recommended that existing aquaculture will be managed and monitored under strict control, and that additional aquaculture installations aren't allowed within the nominated property and highly restricted in the vicinity of the property."
So - does this "qualify" Rock Islands for the Connection or not?
You have the choice
a, Include any site containing an Aquaculture mention in its AB review - whether this is positive to the site or not (but of course providing also that it refers to a location inside the core boundaries)
b. Limit the Connection to those sites where the Aquaculture is an aspect of the reasons FOR inscription (traditional practices/structures etc). This is clearly the case for Budj Bim and Nan Madol - in the case of Hortobagy I guess the "artificial fish ponds" developed from 1914 onwards could be taken as another example of the "its traditional use over more than two millennia (which).. represents the harmonious interaction between human beings and nature." - there certainly wasn't any criticism of it or suggestion that it needed to be curtailed. In a few years or so we can expect Trebon to appear on the list - and in its case they are clearly an aspect of its value!

Either could be valid - we have many connections on matters which are not positive for the site ("endangered by...." etc)- this would just be a bit unusual in containing both positive and negative. reasons but it would tell us something about the site and its place within the entire List - which is a reason for identifying "Connections" of course!

Author elsslots
Admin
#49 | Posted: 12 Jul 2019 05:48 
I meant B. Rock islands example for A is outside of core zone. Another connection, 'Threatened by aquaculture', could become a future possibility.
For B I also considered adding "part of its OUV", which is certainly the case for Hortobagy but not literally described as such.

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#50 | Posted: 12 Jul 2019 06:11 
elsslots:
Rock islands example for A is outside

Agree with decision but I don't think it is "outside core zone"! Or at least the " English " doesn't say so -"is located near the boundary within the nominated property"!

Author elsslots
Admin
#51 | Posted: 4 Jan 2022 05:15 
I think I have 2 for a future connection somewhat like "Used for astronaut training"
1. Grand Canyon: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jul/18/arizona-apollo-astronauts-moon-training-practice
2. El Pinacate: "in 1965 NASA used the El Verdugo crater to test moon vehicles" (UNEP) / NASA sent astronauts to the Gran Desierto de Altar from 1965 to 1970, to train for walking on the moon, due to the similarities of the terrain to the lunar surface. (wiki)

Anyone who knows of a 3rd?

Author meltwaterfalls
Partaker
#52 | Posted: 4 Jan 2022 06:48 
elsslots:
"Used for astronaut training"

I had a feeling Mount Teide was used by ESA/ NASA, so far I can only find astronaut training taking place on Lanzarotte, and only the testing of equipment at Teide.

Will keep looking though.

Author elsslots
Admin
#53 | Posted: 4 Jan 2022 07:01 
meltwaterfalls:
testing of equipment at Teide.

This may count already, I can still tweak the definition!

Author Colvin
Partaker
#54 | Posted: 4 Jan 2022 09:24 | Edited by: Colvin 
For the astronaut training connection, I'd recommend Hawaii Volcanoes National Park.

Hawaii Volcanoes was used by Apollo 11 astronauts to study volcanoes. More recently, but not necessarily involving astronauts, NASA has been using Hawaii Volcanoes to prepare for future missions to Mars.

Author elsslots
Admin
#55 | Posted: 4 Jan 2022 10:02 
Good one as well!

Author Zoe
Partaker
#56 | Posted: 18 Feb 2023 05:09 
I had two ideas for connections but even the ones I have now may not even be valid.

1..Visa Stamps (Official ones only)
coco-de-mer for Seychelles to represent Vallée de Mai, although technically it's just the seed and not the WHS directly
Galapagos National Park...for itself, obvious
But I can't think of a third

2. Visas with WH
Recently came across the Chinese one and it has the Great Wall in the background
Unfortunately this may be the only one. The US only has Licoln and the liberty bell , now being replaced eith the Golden Gate Bridge anyway.

Author elsslots
Admin
#57 | Posted: 18 Feb 2023 06:49 
Looking through my passport, I only see Cambodia which has the Angkor Thom gateway stamped on top of my visa. I think this is in category 2 you described above. There must be more.

Author Zoe
Partaker
#58 | Posted: 18 Feb 2023 08:24 
That's actually quite good, even the stamp has the gateway from what I can see (need to check my old passports for that).

The Nazca Lines are implied with the P in Peru on the stamp but it's once again just a reference to it.

Author tsunami
Partaker
#59 | Posted: 19 Feb 2023 01:01 | Edited by: tsunami 
Sky Resort in the core zones:

1. Canadian Rocky Mountain Parks

2. Pyrénées - Mont Perdu

3. ???

I am aware that Causses and Cévennes in France and Banska Stiavnica in Slovakia have some ski lifts in the core zones, but they are hardly "ski resorts."

I guess all the four qualify as "Sky Lifts in the core zones."

Author Zoe
Partaker
#60 | Posted: 19 Feb 2023 17:49 
Would think the 12 resorts in the Dolomiti Superski area definitely count :)

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