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Author elsslots
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#1 | Posted: 23 Mar 2013 04:11 
Let's go on with the discussion that we started here: http://www.worldheritagesite.org/forums/index.php?action=vthread&forum=5&topic=1711#m sg6637

Any incorrect or doubtful category-assignments can be posted here. And tips for improvement of course.

Author elsslots
Admin
#2 | Posted: 23 Mar 2013 04:17 
I do like the suggestion of all mixed sites that are cultural landscapes, to have one category only (CL)
http://www.worldheritagesite.org/forums/index.php?action=vthread&forum=5&topic=1711&p age=1#msg6639

So:
- any individual WHS should be placed into 1 category
- only mixed sites can have 2 categories
- if a mixed site is a cultural landscape, it will have only 1 category (that of Cultural Landscape)
- more than 2 categories is impossible, the "extra" probably is a connection
- A "Category" is concerned with identifying a site's prime attribute whilst a "Connection" merely identifies some secondary aspect

If we find more "rules" that define Categories enough, I will add that to the Categories main page.

Author Assif
Partaker
#3 | Posted: 23 Mar 2013 08:30 
I would move Trebic to a new category of Judaism which I think is more significant than the Christian value of the site.
I would also move Meroe to Egyptian rather than Classical.

Author elsslots
Admin
#4 | Posted: 23 Mar 2013 10:04 
Assif:
I would move Trebic to a new category of Judaism which I think is more significant than the Christian value of the site.

I certainly agree that it should not be a Christian religious site. I'll remove that. The other category present is "Post-medieval urban landscape", which is still worth considering as the OUV of the site lies in the "coexistence of Jewish and Christian cultures from the Middle Ages up to the Second World War."

Author elsslots
Admin
#5 | Posted: 23 Mar 2013 10:16 | Edited by: elsslots 
Assif:
I would also move Meroe to Egyptian rather than Classical.

It's categorized as "Classical (other)", although "other" is never a good category and maybe we should try to delete this one.
- we could put the Thracians and Lycians with the Greeks
- and the Nubians with the Egyptians

But I guess the ancient kings will turn over in their graves

somebody else ideas on this?

P.S.: maybe we could allow them small categories of their own, like the Bahai

Author kintante
Partaker
#6 | Posted: 23 Mar 2013 17:02 
Wartburg was not built and never used as fortress. I would rather move it to palace or maybe residence.

Author elsslots
Admin
#7 | Posted: 24 Mar 2013 00:27 
kintante:
Wartburg was not built and never used as fortress. I would rather move it to palace or maybe residence.

I've changed it into Palace (that's what it is called in the AB evaluation too).

Author elsslots
Admin
#8 | Posted: 24 Mar 2013 01:33 
And I have changed Tyre and Sabratha to Phoenician only (removing the secondary Ancient Roman)

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#9 | Posted: 25 Mar 2013 05:51 
I wonder how come we finished up with
a. Urban Landscape - Colonial
b. Urban Landscape - Latin American
where many of the "Urban landscapes - Colonial" are in fact "Latin American"!!

Author kintante
Partaker
#10 | Posted: 26 Apr 2013 05:00 
Could it be that you didn't add actual Rome to the list of Roman sites?

Author elsslots
Admin
#11 | Posted: 26 Apr 2013 06:43 
kintante:
Could it be that you didn't add actual Rome to the list of Roman sites?

Rome is labelled under "Urban Continuity", and that is right I believe, as the WHS has a lot of focus on the papal sites, renaissance etc. This focus is a bit out of balance on the Unesco website, as there were no elaborate nomination documents when Rome was inscribed. Only the extension of 1990 is described well.

The ancient Roman heritage of Rome would be a Connection, if we had one like that (we only have roman colonies).

Author kintante
Partaker
#12 | Posted: 26 Apr 2013 09:16 
I see. I'd say you're right, as Rome can't be reduced to an archaeological site. Just a bit strange that the "mother" of this category is not in the category itself :)

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#13 | Posted: 6 May 2013 09:22 | Edited by: jonathanfr 
"Pearling" is a "Cultural landscape", not only "Arabic / Middle Eastern"

Author elsslots
Admin
#14 | Posted: 6 May 2013 14:25 
jonathanfr:
"Pearling" is a "Cultural landscape", not only "Arabic / Middle Eastern"

no it isn't, we discussed it in the cultural landscape topic - it's not on the official Unesco list of CL, and also not in the AB ev
there's one spot in the Unesco website that suggests it is (a link has been made), but I guess this is an error

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#15 | Posted: 6 May 2013 15:44 | Edited by: Solivagant 
elsslots:
jonathanfr:
"Pearling" is a "Cultural landscape", not only "Arabic / Middle Eastern"


It was once called "Pearling and its Cultural Landscapes in Bahrain" - from its placement on Bahrain's T List in 2008 BUT, by the time it was nominated for consideration at the 2011 WHC, its title had been changed to that under which it was eventually inscribed viz "Pearling -Testimony of an Island economy" with no mention of its potential as a CL.

Se here from the 2011 list of sites nominated for consideration at the 2011 WHC http://whc.unesco.org/archive/2010/whc10-34com-inf8B3e.pdf

Els - I note that you were still calling it by its old name (and reference number??) as late as its referral in 2011.
http://www.worldheritagesite.org/sites/t5370.html
Though this page can only be accessed as far as I can see from a Google Search since it does not appear under the country section for Bahrain "Pearling and its cultural landscapes in Bahrain This site has been part of the Tentative list of: Bahrain "

It looks as if Bahrain had been given advice that the CL route was not likely to help the site!

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