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Author elsslots
Admin
#496 | Posted: 4 Oct 2025 14:14 
Jurre:
Some more remarks for the markers for the components of the WHS Routes of Santiago de Compostela in France:

Thanks! I have updated them.

If possible for you, could you post them next time in latitude, longitude format? (43.981422882495856, 0.49818375948148347)
I could not convert the coordinates given above.

Author elsslots
Admin
#497 | Posted: 29 Oct 2025 08:35 
elsslots:
- Frontiers of the Roman Empire: all coordinates in the German section now seem to be available; I will add them when I have some time to spare and can make a script (+163)

Done! We should be good now. Thanks to meltwaterfalls for sharing a neat spreadsheet.
(we show more locations overall for the FotRE because UNESCO misses Antonine Wall)

Author Astraftis
Partaker
#498 | Posted: 8 Nov 2025 16:48 
Small things of a small country, Luxembourg:

- the map is centered on the city center of Luxemburg instead of showing the country
- it seems that the former sites of Vianden and Echternach are not on the map

Author Jakob
Partaker
#499 | Posted: 8 Nov 2025 18:29 
I have added the two, it shows more of Luxemburg now.

Author elsslots
Admin
#500 | Posted: 13 Jan 2026 10:46 | Edited by: elsslots 
For those who like some puzzling with maps: what are the exact coordinates of the Namazgoh Mosque, a component of Samarkand?

1. UNESCO maps have it at 39.630556, 66.963889 (I see a doctor's office)
2. When I georeferenced the official map, I ended up two blocks southwest of that, around 39.62894849961517, 66.95990192470906 (at something what looks like a school)
3. Google maps and OSM maps have it at 39.63727955290808, 66.9684048480202 (this is indeed a mosque, but significantly more north)
4. Something else?

See official map as well, but it gets too vague when you zoom in

Author JanWillem
Partaker
#501 | Posted: 13 Jan 2026 16:40 | Edited by: JanWillem 
elsslots
I think the mosque on Google maps is correct. The views from above, also in Google Earth, are consistent with the picture of the mosque, e.g. here. And that page also provides similar coordinates at the bottom.
And the main road along the north side is also called Nomozgoh.

Author elsslots
Admin
#502 | Posted: 12 Mar 2026 12:48 | Edited by: elsslots 
elsslots:
Solivagant:
Are we really convinced that these c1900 elements - all so carefully mapped, REALLY are a part of the INSCRIBED site?

The source document supplied at the UNESCO website is this one (huge): https://whc.unesco.org/document/128694
All listed ca. 1900 monuments are associated structures, often just off the main route (which is just a narrow road and has a core and buffer zone).
Still it's worth keeping them I think, but it needs an explanation and adjustment of the text in the Incorrect numbers of locations connection.

Coming back to this, I have given the 1900+ associated sites of the Route to Compostela in Spain a different label, so they don't clutter the Spain map as much anymore & to be true to their "special" status. As a placeholder I used the POI not in core zone-marker, but it will get its own.

This leaves the original 20 as the official locations, which realistically is incorrect (see the connection) but we don't know what is

Author elsslots
Admin
#503 | Posted: 11 Jul 2026 04:08 | Edited by: elsslots 
I found something remarkable at the first Silk Roads WHS:
we have it including the already inscribed Longmen and Mogao Grottoes (also a connection), but while they are mentioned in the AB ev, these are not shown on the official maps and in the list of components at https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1442/maps/

Even the nom file speaks only of 33 components. The only reason we have (had) 35 could be explained from the official data set becoming available much later. I have now changed it.

Author elsslots
Admin
#504 | Posted: 11 Jul 2026 11:37 
Need a second opinion on another Silk Road component: Karamergen (KAZ).

Wiki and we have it at: 46.254722, 75.626111
UNESCO has it at: 45.908056, 75.663056 (about 50km south)

The site should show "The settlement is rectangular (115 x 120 m), with walls three meters in height.", but both do?

Author Jurre
Partaker
#505 | Posted: 11 Jul 2026 12:40 
Some corrections for the markers for the components of the WHS Routes of Santiago de Compostela in France:

- Ancienne abbaye Notre-Dame de la Sauve Majeure (La Sauve): 44.76793420504847, -0.3119076381771738

- Eglise Saint-Pierre, La Sauve: 44.76880099915403, -0.31639021728878736

- Ancienne cathédrale Saint-Jean-Baptiste (Bazas): 44.431547309514116, -0.2095543665909654

Author hubert
Partaker
#506 | Posted: 11 Jul 2026 15:35 
elsslots:
Need a second opinion on another Silk Road component: Karamergen (KAZ).

At first, I would assume that the UNESCO coordinates are correct.
The maps in the nomination document (pages 919 to 922) match these coordinates.

But Google Maps also confirms our coordinates. And it refers to the UNESCO location as 'Settlement Agashayak' (translated from the Russian subtitle on Google Maps).

Apparently, both – Karamergen and Agashayak – are archaeological sites.

During my Google search, I came across the Silk Road Adventures website. They follow our version of the coordinates:
https://silkadv.com/en/content/settlement-karamergen
https://silkadv.com/en/content/settlement-agashayak
I would assume they know where their tours are heading, right?
But could the nomination file be wrong?

Author elsslots
Admin
#507 | Posted: 11 Jul 2026 16:58 
hubert:
But could the nomination file be wrong?

The maps and the texts are often compiled by different people. So, yes, could be.

We could do a visual match of the 2 sites, but they seem to look very similar. The nomination file is very hard to handle. Does it show any pictures of Karamergen?

Author Colvin
Partaker
#508 | Posted: 11 Jul 2026 22:16 
If on the WHS Routes of Santiago de Compostela in France, the marker for the Cathédrale Saint-Etienne de Cahors should be closer to:
44.44728142259852, 1.4430059597736555

Author hubert
Partaker
#509 | Posted: 12 Jul 2026 09:44 
elsslots:
Does it show any pictures of Karamergen?

There are a few photos (page 331 ff). I think the arial view on page 332 matches our coordinates better.

Author elsslots
Admin
#510 | Posted: 12 Jul 2026 11:14 
hubert
I have kept our coordinates and turned it into a community identified location

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