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Author kkanekahn
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#1 | Posted: 7 Dec 2015 09:00 | Edited by: kkanekahn 
http://www.worldheritagesite.org/categories/category15.html

10 whs

Chola Temples
Hampi
Khajuraho Group of Monuments
Mahabalipuram
Pattadakal
Prambanan
Sun Temple, Konarak
Ellora
My Son
Angkor

Author kkanekahn
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#2 | Posted: 7 Dec 2015 09:04 | Edited by: kkanekahn 
My selection

Chola Temples - Pinnacle of Dravidan Architecture
Khajuraho Group of Monuments- North Indian Architecture (best sculpture and carving alongwith Konark)
Mahabalipuram - Rock cut Dravidan Architecture,Monolith
Prambanan- Indonesian Architecture
Sun Temple, Konarak- East Indian (best sculpture and carving alongwith Khajuraho)
Ellora- Kailash Temple (Rock -cut architecture)

Author clyde
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#3 | Posted: 7 Dec 2015 12:06 
Khajuraho
Konarak - maybe

Author elsslots
Admin
#4 | Posted: 8 Dec 2015 01:19 
This seems more of a 'Hindu architecture' list.
Looking at the different styles that are summarized by Wikipedia, we have:
- Nagara architecture: Kandariya Mahadeva Temple, the largest temple of Khajuraho
- Dravidian architecture: Kailash Temple at Ellora seems to be the prime example of this
- Badami Chalukya architecture: Pattadakal
- Gadag Architecture style: -
- Kalinga architecture style: Konark Sun Temple
- Māru-Gurjara temple architecture: -
- Indonesian candi: Prambanan (if we leave Borobudur for Buddhist)
- Khmer architecture: Angkor (bring over from different category)
- Champa architecture: My Son (bring over from different category)
- Contemporary architecture: -

Author fr4nc1sc4
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#5 | Posted: 8 Dec 2015 02:30 
My selection:

Khajuraho Group of Monuments
Mahabalipuram
Prambanan
Sun Temple, Konarak

Author kkanekahn
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#6 | Posted: 8 Dec 2015 08:19 
elsslots:
Khmer architecture: Angkor (bring over from different category)
- Champa architecture: My Son (bring over from different category)

Done

Author Durian
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#7 | Posted: 8 Dec 2015 16:15 
I will go with Chola and Ellora, masterpiece of engineering and very beautiful, and Ellora can represent Jainism too.

Author kkanekahn
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#8 | Posted: 9 Dec 2015 06:47 
I would appreciate the selections from Assif and others in this category.

Author meltwaterfalls
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#9 | Posted: 9 Dec 2015 13:36 
I'm afraid I don't really have much to add they all seem pretty impressive to me, I don't have the knowledge to separate the wheat from the chaff.

The only two I have visited are Ellora and Angkor, and if they don't make it to the final 200 then we have got something very wrong.

Author Colvin
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#10 | Posted: 10 Dec 2015 21:36 
This isn't my forte, and I haven't been to South Asia, but the sites that immediately stand out to me are:

Sun Temple, Konarak -- great example of temple architecture, and one of India's earliest World Heritage Sites
Ellora Caves -- beautiful rock-cut cave temples, with ties to Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism
Prambanan -- impressive example of Hindu architecture outside of India
Angkor Wat -- perhaps the most well-known temple complex in south and southeast Asia; started out as a Hindu temple before changing to a Buddhist temple in the 12th century

I'd have to defer to the expertise of kkanekhan and others who live(d) or have traveled through India for other choices.

Author elsslots
Admin
#11 | Posted: 14 Dec 2015 14:14 
Summarizing:

Chola Temples - Pinnacle of Dravidan Architecture
Hampi
Khajuraho Group of Monuments - representing Nagara and North Indian architecture:, best sculpture
Mahabalipuram - Rock cut Dravidan Architecture,Monolith
Pattadakal
Prambanan - impressive example of Hindu architecture outside of India, best example of Indonesian candi
Sun Temple, Konarak - representing Kalinga architecture style, best sculpture and carving along with Khajuraho

Brought over from a different category:
Angkor - most well-known temple complex in south and southeast Asia; started out as a Hindu temple before changing to a Buddhist temple in the 12th century
Ellora - beautiful rock-cut cave temples, with ties to Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, Kailash Temple is best example of Dravidian architecture
My Son - representing Champa architecture

Author Solivagant
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#12 | Posted: 14 Dec 2015 15:23 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Many of these sites are equivalent in cultural significance to the Cathedrals and cities of Europe. Despite our attempts to cull the European sites we are still finding plenty of reasons to leave in a fair number! So - a fair number of Aachen, Koln, Canterbury, Chartres, Kiev etc etc will be chosne to "represent" different styles e.g Gothic, Romanesque etc and "Religious traditions" - Protestanstism, Orthodox, Catholic etc.
How do we ensure that we give Hindu sites the equivalent representation? Is it lack of knowledge of their significance and their variety? Or -dare it be suggested - that they have LESS significance and variation?
I have visited 8 of the 10 in this list (Not My Son or Prambanan) - and of these 8 I have to say that every one of them seems to me to be the equal of sites which, in Europe we are accepting. But I don't have the knowledge to really differentiate.

For instance
I know that Pattadakal is significant in the development of Temple styles (and would be even more so if it included nearby Aihole). But when I visit it I don't have the cultural nor the architectural knowledge to really understand and appreciate let alone differentiate - the "shock of the new" just overwhelms in a way which isn't the case for us Europeans when looking at e,g Cathedrals!
And surely Hampi is the equal of any of the archaeological sites we are going to include from Europe?

My inclination is to include every one of these on the basis that they are all different in period and style and are all significant in their ability to represent the sweep of Hindu dynasties, subcultures and architectural styles . And if needs be, to keep the total number of sites down to c400 - to be "harder" on some of the European cities and Cathedrals!

Author kkanekahn
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#13 | Posted: 19 Dec 2015 00:50 | Edited by: kkanekahn 
Yes, I also think that Islam, Buddhist and hinduism should have good representation. Dravid temple architecture is completely different from Nagar style. Hinduism can be represented by 5 stunning Whs (taking only 1 from each completely different catagory)

Chola Temples - Pinnacle of Dravidan Architecture, Temple made up of granite, stunning example of engineering, Has influence on major Dravidan architecture style including Angkor
Khajuraho Group of Monuments- Best example of Nagar (North Indian) Architecture (best sculpture and carving alongwith Konark),
Prambanan- Indonesian Architecture ( Best example of South- east Asian Hindu Architecture along with Angkor which later converted to Buddhist site)
Sun Temple, Konarak- Kalinga Architecture (completely different from Nagar and Dravid, it has Amalgam of both) (best sculpture and carving alongwith Khajuraho)
Ellora- (Rock -cut hindu cave temple architecture)

Others
Angkor- Largest temple complex in world (later changed to Buddhist

Author elsslots
Admin
#14 | Posted: 20 Dec 2015 00:09 
Summarizing once more:

Chola Temples - Pinnacle of Dravidan Architecture
Hampi
Khajuraho Group of Monuments - representing Nagara and North Indian architecture:, best sculpture
Mahabalipuram - Rock cut Dravidan Architecture,Monolith
Pattadakal - representing Badami Chalukya architecture
Prambanan - impressive example of Hindu architecture outside of India, best example of Indonesian candi
Sun Temple, Konarak - representing Kalinga architecture style, best sculpture and carving along with Khajuraho

Brought over from a different category:
Angkor - most well-known temple complex in south and southeast Asia; started out as a Hindu temple before changing to a Buddhist temple in the 12th century
Ellora - beautiful rock-cut cave temples, with ties to Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, Kailash Temple is best example of Dravidian architecture
My Son - representing Champa architecture

Author elsslots
Admin
#15 | Posted: 20 Dec 2015 00:26 | Edited by: elsslots 
Solivagant:
How do we ensure that we give Hindu sites the equivalent representation?

I believe there are a few sides to this discussion:
- the spread of Hinduism isn't very wide (or maybe better say: thick), it's the major religion in India and Nepal but not much beyond that (in this way it differs significantly from Christianity, Islam and Buddhism)
- as rightly concluded by Durian in the Christian pilgrimage topic, there are no Hindu pilgrimage sites on the WH List; so it's a gap and we "could do something about it" via our Missing inventories; but it's not something we are going to solve in our Top 200
- Kathmandu, Ellora and Angkor will get in via different categories, they have important Hindu connections
- should we 'give' India 6 entries in the Top 200 via one category?

I really love Hampi and the Chola temples (and they will make it into my Top 200 I guess), but probably more because of the visiting experience and their general excoticness than for an objective reason.

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